hauppauge wintv pvr usb

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip

Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

Flip,
Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft OSes.
Mario
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" wrote:

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip

I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

"Mario Rosario" wrote in message

Flip,
Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft OSes.

Tell that to HP and Canon. They must have mislaid the memo.

Did you try their Vista drivers? Did they not work? What did support say about them? Are you trying to run on x86 or x64? http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/vista.html
"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

I got 2 Hauppauge PCI cards in a box in storage.
"Jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

....but it is the truth. The code IS changing...many/most/some drivers written for Beta1 of Vista no longer work under Beta2.(Creative...)
Officiallly this beta is not for end users, it is supposed to be for technology professionals to test for implementation.
I would love for all my stuff to work also, but I am not going to blame the hardware vendors for not jumping through hoops to get their consumer products up and running for Beta2.

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Sorry Tom, my point is if software and devices don't even work at all--what is there to test. I'm already bored with it. If we have to wait for 6 months to a year to get the most common hardware to work MS will never get the bugs outta Vista and I've been testing MS products since Win 95 and the old MSN in the days they thought they could compete with other online services. Some of the vendors I have spoken to claim they are not developing drivers or new software until the code is not going to change, claiming it's a waste of their time. I have to believe they have had access to Vista for quite some time and are way behind not to have their own betas. I'd be willing to work with pre-bata's rather then have completely non-functional hard and software. I have 4 other computers so I'm not crippled.
P.S. The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

Peter,
It is not easy to get drivers to work in a 50 million lines of code Operating System. Even if you work for HP or Canon.
Mario
"Peter M" wrote in message

"Mario Rosario" wrote in message Flip,
Be patient. Vendors jump at the chance to get their drivers on Microsoft OSes.
Tell that to HP and Canon. They must have mislaid the memo.

Thanks Zapper! I was at their site and there was nothing about Vista to be found. Maybe I just overlooked it. But my box is before USB2. There must have been something fundamentally wrong with the WinTV PVR USB as I upgraded to XP one month after I purchases the PVR and it didn't work until I got the new XP drivers. They are buggy and the sound from the PVR was never good. I have an ATI wonder TV PCI card in a spare 'puter and it has great sound and works, but I'm not as fond of the interface.
Flip
"Zapper" wrote in message

Did you try their Vista drivers? Did they not work? What did support say about them? Are you trying to run on x86 or x64? http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/vista.html
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

I used Google to find that list..I have found that most manufacturers websites are impossible to navigate.
I think the major change for he USB2 PVR was adding hardware Mpeg2 support(which was necessary to run in Windows XP Media Center 2005)
Do you happen to know which chip the atiwonder tv card uses? I have a generic card using hte Ati 550 chip and it works wonders in MCE and Vista...you can then use the Media Center in Vista if it is supported. It is the best interface for DVR on the PC(in my opinion..i have tried beyondTV, yahoo, and several others)
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

Thanks Zapper! I was at their site and there was nothing about Vista to be found. Maybe I just overlooked it. But my box is before USB2. There must have been something fundamentally wrong with the WinTV PVR USB as I upgraded to XP one month after I purchases the PVR and it didn't work until I got the new XP drivers. They are buggy and the sound from the PVR was never good. I have an ATI wonder TV PCI card in a spare 'puter and it has great sound and works, but I'm not as fond of the interface.
Flip
"Zapper" wrote in message Did you try their Vista drivers? Did they not work? What did support say about them? Are you trying to run on x86 or x64? http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/vista.html
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" wrote:

Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip

OK I tried a Hauppage PCI card.
WinTV 878/9 with a 44085 PAL-I Tuner Chip.
Installed, Vista went online and found / installed video / audio drivers successfully, I was suitably amazed.
Decided there was little chance of the WinTV 2000 app that came with the card working so I tried the Media Centre. The media centre went through the motions but decided I had no tuner installed despite the fact that it Vista had installed drivers for it.
Tried the WinTV 2000 app installed under compatability mode but it would not install even in a full admin account, did not expect it to but worth a try.
Anyway partial success, I will investigate media centre further tomorrow but I am not confident its going to work in this Beta environment .
Jonah

Just because Vista the OS sees a peripheral(your TV tuner card) and installs drivers does not mean that Media Center(the app which happens to come with Vista) will support it.
In order to guarantee a pleasurable experience of Windows Media Center, Microsoft made the capability for real time Mpeg2 encoding required. What this meant for every card I have heard of is hardware based, therefore most(any?) cards that are over 2 years old are not going to be "recognized/useable" in Media Center.
"jonah" wrote in message

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
OK I tried a Hauppage PCI card.
WinTV 878/9 with a 44085 PAL-I Tuner Chip.
Installed, Vista went online and found / installed video / audio drivers successfully, I was suitably amazed.
Decided there was little chance of the WinTV 2000 app that came with the card working so I tried the Media Centre. The media centre went through the motions but decided I had no tuner installed despite the fact that it Vista had installed drivers for it.
Tried the WinTV 2000 app installed under compatability mode but it would not install even in a full admin account, did not expect it to but worth a try.
Anyway partial success, I will investigate media centre further tomorrow but I am not confident its going to work in this Beta environment .
Jonah

Ah, the original USB.
It's a software encoder and not supported by MCE.
Blow big bucks ($59 on sale) and buy a PVR-150 PCI card "Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

Thanks Zapper! I was at their site and there was nothing about Vista to be found. Maybe I just overlooked it. But my box is before USB2. There must have been something fundamentally wrong with the WinTV PVR USB as I upgraded to XP one month after I purchases the PVR and it didn't work until I got the new XP drivers. They are buggy and the sound from the PVR was never good. I have an ATI wonder TV PCI card in a spare 'puter and it has great sound and works, but I'm not as fond of the interface.
Flip

The TV Wonder doesn't use the 550, as far as I know "Zapper" wrote in message

I used Google to find that list..I have found that most manufacturers websites are impossible to navigate.
I think the major change for he USB2 PVR was adding hardware Mpeg2 support(which was necessary to run in Windows XP Media Center 2005)
Do you happen to know which chip the atiwonder tv card uses? I have a generic card using hte Ati 550 chip and it works wonders in MCE and Vista...you can then use the Media Center in Vista if it is supported. It is the best interface for DVR on the PC(in my opinion..i have tried beyondTV, yahoo, and several others)
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Thanks Zapper! I was at their site and there was nothing about Vista to be found. Maybe I just overlooked it. But my box is before USB2. There must have been something fundamentally wrong with the WinTV PVR USB as I upgraded to XP one month after I purchases the PVR and it didn't work until I got the new XP drivers. They are buggy and the sound from the PVR was never good. I have an ATI wonder TV PCI card in a spare 'puter and it has great sound and works, but I'm not as fond of the interface.
Flip
"Zapper" wrote in message Did you try their Vista drivers? Did they not work? What did support say about them? Are you trying to run on x86 or x64? http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/vista.html
"Jonah" wrote in message On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:29:36 -0400, "Phillip Schlueter" pschlueter@adelphia.net> wrote:
Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
I got 2 Hauppage PCI cards in XP machines and an older version I may just try in Vista. Drivers for Hauppage have always been a pain in the arse so I am not expecting a success but I will give it a go after the footie and report back later. Don't know about USB versions though haven't got one.
Jonah

Watching this thread so for the heck of it I set up my Hauppauge PVR USB 2 model # 29032 Rev. D158 on Beta 2 to see how it would work. Vista found the new hardware and went to Windows Update to fetch the drivers and installed those fine. After the drivers were installed I went to the setup within Media Center and everything was configured fine. However, there is no sound (Audigy 2) even though the sound is working fine in Vista. Video is choppy. Dunno if that's a video driver issue (nVidia) or Media Edition or both. This was my experience so far. Interesting to see what happens with future builds.
Paula

Did you record anything or just watch?
If you just watched, how about recording and see if the video is smooth.
While watching, it has been hit or miss whether it was smooth or choppy...one time it obviously started thrashing when I opened Windows Mail, then went perfect when I quit out...but other times it has been harder to figure out.
What did you do to get your Audigy 2 to work. I have an Audigy 2ZS, and tried to install the Beta 1 drivers from the Creative site. It did not work first time, so I went back to onboard. Since I am only using headphones, I am not really worried about it..but would love to know if you had to do any tricks to get it up and running...

"Paula" wrote in message

Watching this thread so for the heck of it I set up my Hauppauge PVR USB 2 model # 29032 Rev. D158 on Beta 2 to see how it would work. Vista found the new hardware and went to Windows Update to fetch the drivers and installed those fine. After the drivers were installed I went to the setup within Media Center and everything was configured fine. However, there is no sound (Audigy 2) even though the sound is working fine in Vista. Video is choppy. Dunno if that's a video driver issue (nVidia) or Media Edition or both. This was my experience so far. Interesting to see what happens with future builds.
Paula

I was just watching but now that you pointed that out, I tried recording something and it played back just fine. Still no sound though.
As to the Audigy question, when I first installed Vista I had a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card that was not recognized. Upon checking the manufacturer's web site, they have discontinued that product and are no longer offering support for it so I bought a new card, the Audigy 2 value. I installed it after I had Vista all up and running. It recognized the new hardware and asked for a cd with the drivers. I inserted the supplied CD that came with the card and to my surprise, they installed fine and sound was now working. Sometimes it gets a little quirky and raspy, but it's fine most of the time .. Device Manager reports the driver date as 7/1/2004 and the version as 5.12.4.522. I have not tried any of the creative beta drivers or any other driver since what is working now is good enough for the time being. Paula
"Zapper" wrote in message

Did you record anything or just watch?
If you just watched, how about recording and see if the video is smooth.
While watching, it has been hit or miss whether it was smooth or choppy...one time it obviously started thrashing when I opened Windows Mail, then went perfect when I quit out...but other times it has been harder to figure out.
What did you do to get your Audigy 2 to work. I have an Audigy 2ZS, and tried to install the Beta 1 drivers from the Creative site. It did not work first time, so I went back to onboard. Since I am only using headphones, I am not really worried about it..but would love to know if you had to do any tricks to get it up and running...

"Paula" wrote in message Watching this thread so for the heck of it I set up my Hauppauge PVR USB 2 model # 29032 Rev. D158 on Beta 2 to see how it would work. Vista found the new hardware and went to Windows Update to fetch the drivers and installed those fine. After the drivers were installed I went to the setup within Media Center and everything was configured fine. However, there is no sound (Audigy 2) even though the sound is working fine in Vista. Video is choppy. Dunno if that's a video driver issue (nVidia) or Media Edition or both. This was my experience so far. Interesting to see what happens with future builds.
Paula

I am running on x64, and I downloaded the drivers that were just suggested this morning. I am only using headphone, so they worked(had to install twice). The driver # is 5.12.8.1164. Headphones are working, but the system seems less responsive...will keep an eye on it. The driver package is called SBAX_WEBUP_LB_2_08_0004
"Paula" wrote in message

I was just watching but now that you pointed that out, I tried recording something and it played back just fine. Still no sound though.
As to the Audigy question, when I first installed Vista I had a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card that was not recognized. Upon checking the manufacturer's web site, they have discontinued that product and are no longer offering support for it so I bought a new card, the Audigy 2 value. I installed it after I had Vista all up and running. It recognized the new hardware and asked for a cd with the drivers. I inserted the supplied CD that came with the card and to my surprise, they installed fine and sound was now working. Sometimes it gets a little quirky and raspy, but it's fine most of the time . Device Manager reports the driver date as 7/1/2004 and the version as 5.12.4.522. I have not tried any of the creative beta drivers or any other driver since what is working now is good enough for the time being. Paula
"Zapper" wrote in message Did you record anything or just watch?
If you just watched, how about recording and see if the video is smooth.
While watching, it has been hit or miss whether it was smooth or choppy...one time it obviously started thrashing when I opened Windows Mail, then went perfect when I quit out...but other times it has been harder to figure out.
What did you do to get your Audigy 2 to work. I have an Audigy 2ZS, and tried to install the Beta 1 drivers from the Creative site. It did not work first time, so I went back to onboard. Since I am only using headphones, I am not really worried about it..but would love to know if you had to do any tricks to get it up and running...

"Paula" wrote in message Watching this thread so for the heck of it I set up my Hauppauge PVR USB 2 model # 29032 Rev. D158 on Beta 2 to see how it would work. Vista found the new hardware and went to Windows Update to fetch the drivers and installed those fine. After the drivers were installed I went to the setup within Media Center and everything was configured fine. However, there is no sound (Audigy 2) even though the sound is working fine in Vista. Video is choppy. Dunno if that's a video driver issue (nVidia) or Media Edition or both. This was my experience so far. Interesting to see what happens with future builds.
Paula

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message

As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped))

The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at

all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip

Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

Here's that link: http://www.hauppage.com/pages/faq/support_faq_pci_winxp.html#4
"- Bobb -" wrote in message news:...

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped)) The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

An update to earlier note:
I downloaded the latest files from Hauppauge website earlier but when I opened WinTV, I got 2 errors - "drivers missing " types. ( I have WinTV 878 chipset )
I finished my install so I registered Vista and Office. I then did a Windows Update - And LISTED AS OPTIONAL Updates - Hauppauge Wintv - 2 updates - downloaded and rebooted. Opened WinTV and it's working fine ! So I got the updates from MICROSOFT Windowsupdate - not Hauppauge ! Yet look at the name of some of these files: "Prerelease Private Build" - who did the "building" ??
The WinTV VERSIONS Tab = hcwTVWnd.dll 2.138.24024 DS-PVR Private Build Special Build
hcwChan.dll 3.23.23039
hcwTVDlg.dll 3.16.21311
hcwDlg.ocx 1.3.22044
hcwUtl32.dll 3.8.22159
hcwHook.dll 1.5.17117
hcwSnap.ax 1.14.22148 Prerelease Private Build
hcwPNP32.dll 4.44.23356
hcwI2C32.dll 2.19.23350
hcwSplit.ax 1.14.20351 Prerelease Private Build
hcwFRead.ax 1.14.20351 Prerelease Private Build
hcwFWrit.ax Not Available
hcwAud32.dll Not Available
hcwAV.dll Not Available
hcwTuner.dll Not Available ........................ The WinTV Driver Details Tab = Model 44801 Rev. D110 Serial #6073489 Tuner Formats: NTSC (M) Tuner Audio: Mono Video Formats: NTSC ( M 443 ) PAL ( B G H I D K M N NCOMBO ) SECAM ( L L' ) Audio Outputs: BackPanel External Inputs: 1 S-Video Inputs: 0 Teletext: Yes (Software) Radio: None Decoder: BT878 Tuner Model: Philips FI1236 MK2
EEprom Contents: 84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 08 0a 01 01 af 50 14 91 ff 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 91 ac 5c 00 74 02 01 00 02 79 df
Bobb
================ "- Bobb -" wrote in message

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped)) The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

But that card IS a hardware encoder. The Win TV USB is not "- Bobb -" wrote in message

"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped)) The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

Nevermind "Tom Scales" wrote in message

But that card IS a hardware encoder. The Win TV USB is not "- Bobb -" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped)) The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom

On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:49:48 -0400, "- Bobb -" wrote:
Thanks a lot Bobb I will have a go with mine later, currently on clean install #8 after yet another experimental tweak gone badly wrong.
8-)
Jonah

An update to earlier note:
I downloaded the latest files from Hauppauge website earlier but when I opened WinTV, I got 2 errors - "drivers missing " types. ( I have WinTV 878 chipset )
I finished my install so I registered Vista and Office. I then did a Windows Update - And LISTED AS OPTIONAL Updates - Hauppauge Wintv - 2 updates - downloaded and rebooted. Opened WinTV and it's working fine ! So I got the updates from MICROSOFT Windowsupdate - not Hauppauge ! Yet look at the name of some of these files: "Prerelease Private Build" - who did the "building" ??
The WinTV VERSIONS Tab = hcwTVWnd.dll 2.138.24024 DS-PVR Private Build Special Build
hcwChan.dll 3.23.23039
hcwTVDlg.dll 3.16.21311
hcwDlg.ocx 1.3.22044
hcwUtl32.dll 3.8.22159
hcwHook.dll 1.5.17117
hcwSnap.ax 1.14.22148 Prerelease Private Build
hcwPNP32.dll 4.44.23356
hcwI2C32.dll 2.19.23350
hcwSplit.ax 1.14.20351 Prerelease Private Build
hcwFRead.ax 1.14.20351 Prerelease Private Build
hcwFWrit.ax Not Available
hcwAud32.dll Not Available
hcwAV.dll Not Available
hcwTuner.dll Not Available ........................ The WinTV Driver Details Tab = Model 44801 Rev. D110 Serial #6073489 Tuner Formats: NTSC (M) Tuner Audio: Mono Video Formats: NTSC ( M 443 ) PAL ( B G H I D K M N NCOMBO ) SECAM ( L L' ) Audio Outputs: BackPanel External Inputs: 1 S-Video Inputs: 0 Teletext: Yes (Software) Radio: None Decoder: BT878 Tuner Model: Philips FI1236 MK2
EEprom Contents: 84 12 00 00 05 50 0e 7f 08 0a 01 01 af 50 14 91 ff 00 00 00 00 84 0a 00 01 01 20 77 00 40 91 ac 5c 00 74 02 01 00 02 79 df
Bobb
================ "- Bobb -" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
((snipped)) The drivers that came with my WinTV PVR USB (ver 1.2) didn't work at all in XP. The version that is currently available and has not been upgraded ever were a problem in XP if you even sneezed near the box.
Flip
Flip, I use "plain WinTV" (878 chip based) on Win2000 and WinXP Home and Pro - Mine is NOT the USB model, but it works fine. I was just there looking for Vista info http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/software/wdm/whql_349_24025.exe and that's the app I used to get it installed. Running the app installs the drivers ( they are not " .inf type" files). If you have 878 based look around there for your model - download and install the 2 files - one has drivers and the other is the Win2000TV app.
Bobb
"Tom Scales" wrote in message
"Phillip Schlueter" wrote in message Anybody have success getting a WinTV PVR USB to work. This hardware was iffy in XP and Hauppauge had an update for it's software. I doubt that they will support this device in Vista......sigh! It was $250.00 when I bought it. The story I am getting from both hardware and software vendors is they won't have updated drivers or programs that work with Vista until it's final release. HOW SHORT SIGHTED! And more over AOL doesn't even have a beta for Vista, so what are 8 to 10 million people going to do when Vista is released. Personally I don't think MS is going to make it's early 2007 goal although the OS seems stable enough. I would hate to be in their call center if released without a resonable amount of vendors having taken Vista's release seriously and provide working drivers. Really!! not even the usuall Anti Virus programs work. That's just a sin.
I love the new look and feel of Vista, but think because more than 1/2 of my software and many devices don't work, I'll just go back to XP. Not much to do with a new operating system that only Office and some assorted programs work with. The upgrage advisor only mentioned 2 problems so I was excited to instal Beta 2. : (
Flip
Do you mean the PVR USB2? Haven't tried it in Vista yet, but it is rock solid reliable in XP. I use two of them every day. You just have to get the right drivers (rarely the latest ones).
If you need any help in XP, just write me privately and I can get it to work for you.
As for the rest of your post, this is why Vista is BETA!
Tom